DALLAS — When Donald Trump took to the stage for the second presidential debate he had this to say about his lewd comments about grouping women:
"So I don't think you understood what I said. This is locker room talk. I'm not proud of it. I apologized to my family and I apologized to the American people..."
Joclyn Ja'Net sees it differently.
She's a sexual assault survivor and runs a non-profit to help survivors.
She says what Trump said on those now infamous tapes equals sexual assault; and to call it "locker room" banter is just as offensive.
"I feel he doesn't understand the audacity of what he is saying to individuals who have possibly gone through that," Ja'Net said. "And if you don't respect our boundaries it takes a toll on that."
Former and current athletes have also weighed in on the controversy. They say his excuse is just as offensive to men.
Jesse Holley was a wide receiver for the Dallas Cowboys and New England Patriots.
"I have been in locker rooms my entire life — all the way back to Pop Warner football, high school college and multiple NFL locker rooms," he said. "And the things that he said on the bus that particular day, I've never heard in the locker room before. I've never heard anyone speak about doing those type of things to women."
PSA: sexual advances without consent is NOT locker room talk.— Kendall Marshall (@KButter5) October 10, 2016
“It puts us in a light that says we talk like this, that we act like this, and that those who have those rumors out there that we are these barbaric animals that can say or do anything we want," Holley said.
But Trump supporters say people are overreacting.
“It was locker room banter," said one supporter.
They point to Bill Clinton's issues with women and say he has said and done far worse.
All this heavy breathing seems more locker room-esque than anything #debate— Blake Griffin (@blakegriffin32) October 10, 2016
"Bill Clinton is no prude," said another Trump supporter. "Hillary is no prude, and most the people complaining are no prudes.
But, Ja'Net and others say Trumps comments should give people pause and question whether he's fit to be President.